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I can't wait until the "electric cars" start getting 3-7 years old and start stalling out on due to battery failure. Can you say daily grid lock in every major city because of the "feel good" factor. LOVE IT! Then the population will become ANGRY will all things "green"

Keep in mind the batteries will last at a maxium of 4000 charges. So you plug in at home, And then the office. (an average of twice a day. So an average of 12 per week. (once a day on weekend). equals a max life of 6.4 years.

I agree with MrPete
The calculator is way off. The life span of the batteries are between 4 adn 7 years. With a cost of THOUSANDS. Nor does this site take into account of the "greenhouse gases" of the electrice power stations" . Further more, if the government was not subsidizing these cars and taxing the "gas guzzlers" The cost would be even greater. The resale of these cars (at 3 or 4 years old) will greatly depend if the batteries have been replaced. Keep your green comments honest. These cars only make you "feel good" but do nothing to promote energy independence" If you want to be "green" shut your lights, heaters, and air conditining OFF and WALK.

This calculator is wayyy off.

It assumes electricity cost is constant. That's a fallacy. As demand increases, cost increases. If use increases significantly, the infrastructure cost for electricity will skyrocket because last-mile delivery is incapable of handling the load (IEEE, Sep 2011.)

Finally, it assumes identical depreciation for all car types, yet another fallacy.

Great site!

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you should also take into accoynt repairs. sou much to go wrong in a gas car

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When looking at your fuel cost for the Leaf, I do not know how you come up with the numbers you do. Assuming 13K miles per year which works out to 36 miles per day even Nissan estimates it would cost about $1.25 a day to charge the car. This comes to a grand total of $4562 over 10 years vs. $2395 you report.

@Biff, batteries on average are designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle (10+ years). Meaning by the time the batteries go, the car wouldn't be worth hanging on to anyways.

Dont forget to include the cost of a new battery after about 4000 charges. Perhaps $4000.

I have noticed that some of the calculations over-estimate the range/productivenes of the vehicle I like the idea of a stick AND automatic police car to save gas instead of idling

This is an excellent tool but needs to be expanded to cover municipal vehicles - including pickup trucks and police cars. While visiting Germany/Austria, recently, I saw that they had BMW and Mercedes Stick shift pursuit vehicles...efficient and effective. Police vehicles consume huge amounts of fuel (often running at idle)....what about diesel fueled vehicles?

On the CO2 calculations for an electric vehicle, How does it assume power generation from what sources? For instance, if you're on the east coast, a lot of power is generated through Coal. If you're on the west coast, there's lots of hydro-electric projects that provide power. I am also curious to know how many kilowatt hours it really takes to charge a battery on a car such as the leaf. I understand it has roughly a 25kwh battery, but with the inefficiencies when charging, it has to take more power to charge it from dead doesn't it? And if electricity becomes more in-demand, wouldn't the rates expect to increase, especially since electricity can be a pretty in-elastic commodity? Just like present-day fossil fuels? Also, do electric vehicles not require lubrication for gears and other moving parts? It would be nice to know more about the model.

My URL certainly is valid- get with it! freedex@rogers.com- oh you need the www??

Talk about a gorilla in the ... How 'bout a 2500 pound dinosaur in the driveway. Why do we need a second "car"? How bout a plug in electric recumbent weather protected tricycle for shhoppping, doctor appointments, hosppital visits using virtually no power, providing choice of exercise, virtuall no space on the road/sidewalk, saving time, parking space (drive right into the store, hospital..... Let's get with it!!!!!

Additional comments:
1. CO2 calculation for Civic GX is wrong too, does not factor 25% reduction from CNG vs Gasoline.
2. Cannot show "barrels of oil saved" when comparing anything to a Civic GX, since it uses none. So oil used on GX would always be 0bbl.

Thanks again!

Good idea here, but has several big flaws. Using example comparing Chevy Volt to Honda Civic GX CNG.
1. Advanced options shows you are not taking into account the Civic GX uses NO gasoline, hence CNG is much cheaper than gasoline. Please add a CNG fuel price option since it is Apples (Volt on Gasoline) and Oranges (GX on CNG) Of course Kwh does not apply to GX so that part is fine.
2. Driving profile needs expansion, assumes all short trips. My daily commute is 75 miles round trip, which is not an option.
3. Fed Subsidies option did not apply to GX. ($4,000) Needs to factor that in too.
Thanks!